Manser or Mansur Robert
Male  - 1677

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  • Gender  Male 
    _UPD  22 JUL 2009 22:42:27 GMT-5 
    Died  Between 1677 and 1680  [1, 2
    Person ID  I5032  Alan Donald Vibber
    Last Modified  08 Dec 2009 
     
    Family  Brooks Elizabeth,   d. 03 Jan 1694/95 
    Married  06 Jun 1670  [1, 2
    Children 
     1. Manser or Mansur John,   b. Abt 1670
     2. Manser or Mansur Thomas
     3. Manser or Mansur William
     4. Manser or Mansur Elizabeth
     5. Manser or Mansur Robert
    Family ID  F2120  Group Sheet
     
  • Notes 
    • ROBERT MANSER OF CHARLBSTOWN.

      I. Robert Manser married Elizabeth Brooks, 6 June, 1670!

      He was living in 1677-8, but was probably dead before 1680 (Charlestown tithe lists), but there is no settlement of his estate.

      Elizabeth Manser, Sr., and Elizabeth Manser, Jr., ordered to be summoned into court for not appearing at the court upon summons of the Charlestown Committee, 7 Oct., 1684.

      29, 10 mo., 1684, they appear in court and their answer being accepted they are dismissed. (Middlesex Court Records.)

      Wyman, in his " Estates," records that the widow Elizabeth Manser was to have a chamber at Thomas Barber's, 21 Oct., 1689. (Selectmens' Records.)

      Elizabeth Manser, widow of Robert, died 3 Jan., 1694-5. There is no settlement of her estate.

      Children :—

      1. John, born about 1670.
      2. Thomas, born before 1680.
      3. William, born before 1680.
      4. Elizabeth, set. 13 in 1685; m. 3 Dec., 1687,Thomas Pope, a mariner.
      5. Robert, born 15 April, 1674, at Charlestown. Nothing further regarding him has been discovered.
      The earliest mention of the Mansur MANSUR surname in New England is found i1v the marriage records of Charlestown, Massachusetts, which place was the center of a settlement of many fishermen from theIsle of Jersey, and it is quite possible that Mansur (or Manser) was a name among them. The surname is an original one, and not a corruption of any similar French name, and is derived from the ancient Norman "Mansur," which was introduced into England by the Normans, but now is not frequently met with either there or in this country, although in America it probably has a greater number of representatives than on the other side of the Atlantic.

      It is not settled beyond all question and according to arbitrary genealogical requirements that the now known Mansur family of America was founded by Robert Mansur, of Charlestown. Mansur genealogy says that while contemporary proofs are wanting that Robert was the common ancestor of the American family, there are certain unmistakable evidences which point to the fact with such directness as to admit of no doubt on the subject. There is a tradition, however, that the first one of that surname in. this country was a French Huguenot who bore the title of Monsieur, and that he came from the Isleof Jersey and settled in the vicinity of Boston about the year 1660. He is said to have been so eccentric in his ways that he was known among his neighbors as the "crazy Frenchman," but the same tradition which ascribes this quality to him also says that he was a person of some means, that he dressed well and engaged in no occupation, but is silent in respect to his family and connections in social and domestic life. In one of the ancient Charlestown records isa record that one Robert Man- sir (or Mansur) married Elizabeth Brooks, a widow, June 6, 1670, and Savage mentions Robert Mansur as a householder in Charlestown in 1678. From all these and other facts it is a safe conclusion that this Robert was in fact the founder of the family of that .surname in America, and he will be so treatedin .these annals.

      (1) Robert Mansur (otherwise Manser) married. June 6, 1670, Elizabeth Brooks, and was living in 1677-78, but probably died before 1680. although there is no record of settlement of his estate. Elizabeth Manser, widow of Robert, died January 3, 1694-95. They had children: John, Thomas, William. Elizabeth and Robert.
     
  • Sources 
    1. [S232] Genealogical and Family History of the State of New Hampshire: A Record of the Achievements of Her People in the Making of a Commonwealth and the Founding of a Nation, Lewis publishing company, Chicago, (Name: The Lewis publishing company, 1908;), 709 (Reliability: 3).

    2. [S260] A Partial Record of the Mansur Family, John Hoffman Mansur, (Name: Kessinger Publishing, LLC, 1901;), 7 (Reliability: 3).